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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 02:53 #1
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Great analysis of the growing so called refugee crisis in Europe. These idiots on social media etc holding up sings welcoming these hoards into Europe won't be saying the same in 10 years from now, and probably much less than that I've heard many of these so called refugees are the scum that Syria doesn't want, some are jihads that the SAA disarmed and sent on their way. And Europe welcomes them with open arms with an open border. It's all a sick fucking joke.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping the needy and genuine refugees, but these hoards aint refugees. Around 90% of them are well dressed young men, no women and children in sight in most cases. We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 
BAD SIGNS Europeans committing suicide Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged. It is one of the heaviest responsibilities we will ever have. We cannot just give it away to complete strangers on an impulse because it makes us feel good about ourselves. Every one of the posturing politicians simpering “Refugees welcome!” should be asked if he or she will take a refugee family into his or her home for an indefinite period, and pay for their food, medical treatment and education. If so, they mean it. If not, they are merely demanding that others pay and make room so that they can experience a self-righteous glow. No doubt the same people are also sentimental enthusiasts for the ‘living wage’, and ‘social housing’, when in fact open borders are steadily pushing wages down and housing costs up. As William Blake rightly said: ‘He who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars. General good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite and flatterer.’ Britain is a desirable place to live mainly because it is an island, which most people can’t get to. Most of the really successful civilisations survived because they were protected from invasion by mountains, sea, deserts or a combination of these things. Ask the Russians or the Poles what it’s like to live without the shield of the sea. There is no positive word for ‘safety’ in Russian. Their word for security is ‘bezopasnost’ – ‘without danger’. Thanks to a thousand years of uninvaded peace, we have developed astonishing levels of trust, safety and freedom. in the British isles. I have visited nearly 60 countries and lived in the USSR, Russia and the USA, and I have never experienced anything as good as what we have. Only in the Anglosphere countries – the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – is there anything comparable. I am amazed at how relaxed we are about giving this away. Our advantages depend very much on our shared past, our inherited traditions, habits and memories. Newcomers can learn them, but only if they come in small enough numbers. Mass immigration means we adapt to them, when they should be adapting to us. So now, on the basis of an emotional spasm, dressed up as civilisation and generosity, are we going to say that we abandon this legacy and decline our obligation to pass it on, like the enfeebled, wastrel heirs of an ancient inheritance letting the great house and the estate go to ruin? Having seen more than my share of real corpses, and watched children starving to death in a Somali famine, I am not unmoved by pictures of a dead child on a Turkish beach. But I am not going to pretend to be more upset than anyone else. Nor am I going to suddenly stop thinking, as so many people in the media and politics appear to have done. The child is not dead because advanced countries have immigration laws. The child is dead because criminal traffickers cynically risked the lives of their victims in pursuit of money. I’ll go further. The use of words such as ‘desperate’ is quite wrong in this case. The child’s family were safe in Turkey. Turkey (for all its many faults) is a member of Nato, officially classified as free and democratic. Many British people actually pay good money to go on holiday to the very beach where the child’s body was washed up. It may not be ideal, but the definition of a refugee is that he is fleeing from danger, not fleeing towards a higher standard of living. Goodness knows I have done all in my power to oppose the stupid interventions by this country in Iraq, Libya and Syria, which have turned so many innocent people into refugees or corpses. But I can see neither sense nor justice in allowing these things to become a pretext for an unstoppable demographic revolution in which Europe (including, alas, our islands) merges its culture and its economy with North Africa and the Middle East. If we let this happen, Europe would lose almost all the things that make others want to live there. You really think these crowds of tough young men chanting ‘Germany!’ in the heart of Budapest are ‘asylum-seekers’ or ‘refugees’? Refugees don’t confront the police of the countries in which they seek sanctuary. They don’t chant orchestrated slogans or lie across the train tracks. BEAUTIFULLY STAGED! 
You can bet they made sure no train was approaching! And why, by the way, do they use the English name for Germany when they chant? In Arabic and Turkish, that country is called ‘Almanya’, in Kurdish something similar. The Germans themselves call it ‘Deutschland’. In Hungarian, it’s ‘Nemetorszag’. Did someone hope that British and American TV would be there? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: spontaneous demonstrations take a lot of organizing. “Spontaneous Demonstrations take a lot of organizing.” www.darkmoon.me/uploads/Germany-fans-refugees-welcome.gif WHO ORGANIZED THIS? Did they all turn up there at the same time by chance? LD: Here is a terse letter in the Mail on Sunday (September 6) which sums up the feelings of many people in Europe, as they see their countries invaded by an unending stream of immigrants from Africa and Eurasia: “The EU’s open-borders policy has turned out to be a monumental failure. If this situation continues, Europe will be reduced to Third World status.” Refugees don’t demand or choose their refuge. They ask and they hope. When we become refugees one day (as we may well do), we will discover this. As to what those angry, confident and forceful young men actually are, I’ll leave you to work it out, as I am too afraid of the Thought Police to use what I think is the correct word. But it is interesting that this week sees the publication in English of a rather dangerous book, which came out in France just before the Charlie Hebdo murders. Submission, by Michel Houellebecq, prophesies a Muslim-dominated government in France about seven years from now, ushered into power by the French Tory and Labour parties. What they want, says one of the cleverer characters in the book, “is for France to disappear – to be integrated into a European federation”. This means they’d much rather do a deal with a Muslim party than with the National Front, France’s Ukip equivalent. If any of this sounds familiar to you, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s amazing how likely and simple the author makes this Islamic revolution sound. Can we stop this transformation of all we have and are? I doubt it. To do so would involve the grim-faced determination of Australia, making it plain in every way that our doors are open only to limited numbers of people, chosen by us, enduring the righteous scorn of the supposedly enlightened. As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t. THE MARCH OF THE MORONS 
HELL-BENT ON NATIONAL SUICIDE To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak. www.darkmoon.me/2015/we-wont-save-refugees-by-destroying-our-own-country/ |
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 03:12 #2
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 04:58 #4
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 05:49 #5
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Zorro wrote:
Great analysis of the growing so called refugee crisis in Europe. These idiots on social media etc holding up sings welcoming these hoards into Europe won't be saying the same in 10 years from now, and probably much less than that I've heard many of these so called refugees are the scum that Syria doesn't want, some are jihads that the SAA disarmed and sent on their way. And Europe welcomes them with open arms with an open border. It's all a sick fucking joke. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for helping the needy and genuine refugees, but these hoards aint refugees. Around 90% of them are well dressed young men, no women and children in sight in most cases. We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country
BAD SIGNS Europeans committing suicide Actually we can’t do what we like with this country. We inherited it from our parents and grandparents and we have a duty to hand it on to our children and grandchildren, preferably improved and certainly undamaged. It is one of the heaviest responsibilities we will ever have. We cannot just give it away to complete strangers on an impulse because it makes us feel good about ourselves. Every one of the posturing politicians simpering “Refugees welcome!” should be asked if he or she will take a refugee family into his or her home for an indefinite period, and pay for their food, medical treatment and education. If so, they mean it. If not, they are merely demanding that others pay and make room so that they can experience a self-righteous glow. No doubt the same people are also sentimental enthusiasts for the ‘living wage’, and ‘social housing’, when in fact open borders are steadily pushing wages down and housing costs up. As William Blake rightly said: ‘He who would do good to another must do it in minute particulars. General good is the plea of the scoundrel, hypocrite and flatterer.’ Britain is a desirable place to live mainly because it is an island, which most people can’t get to. Most of the really successful civilisations survived because they were protected from invasion by mountains, sea, deserts or a combination of these things. Ask the Russians or the Poles what it’s like to live without the shield of the sea. There is no positive word for ‘safety’ in Russian. Their word for security is ‘bezopasnost’ – ‘without danger’. Thanks to a thousand years of uninvaded peace, we have developed astonishing levels of trust, safety and freedom. in the British isles. I have visited nearly 60 countries and lived in the USSR, Russia and the USA, and I have never experienced anything as good as what we have. Only in the Anglosphere countries – the USA, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – is there anything comparable. I am amazed at how relaxed we are about giving this away. Our advantages depend very much on our shared past, our inherited traditions, habits and memories. Newcomers can learn them, but only if they come in small enough numbers. Mass immigration means we adapt to them, when they should be adapting to us. So now, on the basis of an emotional spasm, dressed up as civilisation and generosity, are we going to say that we abandon this legacy and decline our obligation to pass it on, like the enfeebled, wastrel heirs of an ancient inheritance letting the great house and the estate go to ruin? Having seen more than my share of real corpses, and watched children starving to death in a Somali famine, I am not unmoved by pictures of a dead child on a Turkish beach. But I am not going to pretend to be more upset than anyone else. Nor am I going to suddenly stop thinking, as so many people in the media and politics appear to have done. The child is not dead because advanced countries have immigration laws. The child is dead because criminal traffickers cynically risked the lives of their victims in pursuit of money. I’ll go further. The use of words such as ‘desperate’ is quite wrong in this case. The child’s family were safe in Turkey. Turkey (for all its many faults) is a member of Nato, officially classified as free and democratic. Many British people actually pay good money to go on holiday to the very beach where the child’s body was washed up. It may not be ideal, but the definition of a refugee is that he is fleeing from danger, not fleeing towards a higher standard of living. Goodness knows I have done all in my power to oppose the stupid interventions by this country in Iraq, Libya and Syria, which have turned so many innocent people into refugees or corpses. But I can see neither sense nor justice in allowing these things to become a pretext for an unstoppable demographic revolution in which Europe (including, alas, our islands) merges its culture and its economy with North Africa and the Middle East. If we let this happen, Europe would lose almost all the things that make others want to live there. You really think these crowds of tough young men chanting ‘Germany!’ in the heart of Budapest are ‘asylum-seekers’ or ‘refugees’? Refugees don’t confront the police of the countries in which they seek sanctuary. They don’t chant orchestrated slogans or lie across the train tracks. BEAUTIFULLY STAGED!
You can bet they made sure no train was approaching! And why, by the way, do they use the English name for Germany when they chant? In Arabic and Turkish, that country is called ‘Almanya’, in Kurdish something similar. The Germans themselves call it ‘Deutschland’. In Hungarian, it’s ‘Nemetorszag’. Did someone hope that British and American TV would be there? I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: spontaneous demonstrations take a lot of organizing. “Spontaneous Demonstrations take a lot of organizing.” www.darkmoon.me/uploads/Germany-fans-refugees-welcome.gif WHO ORGANIZED THIS? Did they all turn up there at the same time by chance? LD: Here is a terse letter in the Mail on Sunday (September 6) which sums up the feelings of many people in Europe, as they see their countries invaded by an unending stream of immigrants from Africa and Eurasia: “The EU’s open-borders policy has turned out to be a monumental failure. If this situation continues, Europe will be reduced to Third World status.” Refugees don’t demand or choose their refuge. They ask and they hope. When we become refugees one day (as we may well do), we will discover this. As to what those angry, confident and forceful young men actually are, I’ll leave you to work it out, as I am too afraid of the Thought Police to use what I think is the correct word. But it is interesting that this week sees the publication in English of a rather dangerous book, which came out in France just before the Charlie Hebdo murders. Submission, by Michel Houellebecq, prophesies a Muslim-dominated government in France about seven years from now, ushered into power by the French Tory and Labour parties. What they want, says one of the cleverer characters in the book, “is for France to disappear – to be integrated into a European federation”. This means they’d much rather do a deal with a Muslim party than with the National Front, France’s Ukip equivalent. If any of this sounds familiar to you, I wouldn’t be surprised. It’s amazing how likely and simple the author makes this Islamic revolution sound. Can we stop this transformation of all we have and are? I doubt it. To do so would involve the grim-faced determination of Australia, making it plain in every way that our doors are open only to limited numbers of people, chosen by us, enduring the righteous scorn of the supposedly enlightened. As we lack the survival instinct and the determination necessary, and as so many of our most influential people are set on committing a sentimental national suicide, I suspect we won’t. THE MARCH OF THE MORONS
HELL-BENT ON NATIONAL SUICIDE To those who condemn reasonable calls for national self-defence as bigotry, hatred and intolerance (which they are not), I make only this request: just don’t pretend you’re doing a good and generous thing, when you’re really cowardly and weak. www.darkmoon.me/2015/we-wont-save-refugees-by-destroying-our-own-country/ Reminds me of the self loathing, white guilt crowd, here in the US. |
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Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.” ~ Chuang Tzu
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 06:07 #6
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Birth is not a beginning; death is not an end. There is existence without limitation; there is continuity without a starting point.” ~ Chuang Tzu
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 06:25 #7
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 12:27 #8
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 13:08 #9
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 20:49 #10
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 20:56 #11
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Zorro wrote : Got it? Otherwise you'll find yourself packing your swimming trucks for another 2 week holiday.[/b So you get to decide who wil be BANNED here Foxis?  |
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This kind of disgusting and disrespectful behaviour is condoned here
ORANGEAID verbal abuse ''Cinta is a whore. I don't change one word I've said.'' truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/67105-open-up-the-clarity-zone-to-all-tz-members-we-need-transparency-and-not-secrecy.html?start=80#209733 |
We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 21:04 #12
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Cinta wrote:
Zorro wrote : Got it? Otherwise you'll find yourself packing your swimming trucks for another 2 week holiday.[/b So you get to decide who wil be BANNED here Foxis? No I don't Cinta. Neither have I called for any bannings. I bet that twit would have me banned in an instance if it was up to him though ey. Fact is though when somebody just goes on and on and on ad-nauseam, about the same tedious stuff over and over again e.g fucking asking me what country I'm from and other pointless stupid bollox, there comes a time when you just have to do something to make him shut the fuck up. |
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 21:09 #13
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 21:10 #14
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Zorro wrote:
Cinta wrote:
Zorro wrote : Got it? Otherwise you'll find yourself packing your swimming trucks for another 2 week holiday.[/b So you get to decide who wil be BANNED here Foxis? No I don't Cinta. Neither have I called for any bannings. I bet that twit would have me banned in an instance if it was up to him though ey. Fact is though when somebody just goes on and on and on ad-nauseam, about the same tedious stuff over and over again e.g fucking asking me what country I'm from and other pointless stupid bollox, there comes a time when you just have to do something to make him shut the fuck up. Certain posters go on and on about me being a Jew I suggest you do as I : laugh about it,and don't waste your energy on people who have no idea who you are |
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This kind of disgusting and disrespectful behaviour is condoned here
ORANGEAID verbal abuse ''Cinta is a whore. I don't change one word I've said.'' truth-zone.net/forum/members-area/67105-open-up-the-clarity-zone-to-all-tz-members-we-need-transparency-and-not-secrecy.html?start=80#209733 |
We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 21:19 #15
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The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. – Marcus Aurelius
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 22:13 #16
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 22:42 #17
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Zorro wrote:
Cinta wrote:
HERE is your response when I asked never to PM me ever again:Yeah, whatever. Fuck off with your invasive fucking questions then. I have been on topic. And the question stands whe you the OP has started SUCH a thread & do not STAND for your OWN country. And as far as the derail see the filthy one you THANKED for his off topic/lie of me being jewish for the 2,000+ time. And the meme you are notorious for? Be real for a change. This USA white boy from the Mid West will go down swinging when these trained militant 'refuges' are called up. Will you? Topic is at at hand. Zorro wrote : Got it? Otherwise you'll find yourself packing your swimming trucks for another 2 week holiday.[/b So you get to decide who wil be BANNED here Foxis? No I don't Cinta. Neither have I called for any bannings. I bet that twit would have me banned in an instance if it was up to him though ey. Fact is though when somebody just goes on and on and on ad-nauseam, about the same tedious stuff over and over again e.g fucking asking me what country I'm from and other pointless stupid bollox, there comes a time when you just have to do something to make him shut the fuck up. |
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 22:56 #18
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@Zorro ... the Rabbi has had the Jewish mental illness from birth.
Look at how yenta and he / she / it have now derailed this thread because it is bang on the money with their beloved Zionism and its push to recreate Eretz Israel. Where is the assistance of Israel and the Sauds / Gulf States of wahabi crypto -Jews (who fund ISIS btw  ) ... where is it? |
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We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 23:23 #19
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To understand who rules over you look to whom you tube can't criticise
The media isn't there to cover the news It's there to cover the news up All establishment lies pass through three stages First, they are accepted as being self evident Second, they are exposed by diligent research Third, they are enforced "Communism is the bloodiest, most difficult and the most terrible way from capitalism to capitalism" from Under the Sign of the Scorpion by Juri Lina |
We won’t save refugees by destroying our own country 10 Sep 2015 23:49 #20
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Orangeaid wrote:
@Zorro ... the Rabbi has had the Jewish mental illness from birth. Look at how yenta and he / she / it have now derailed this thread because it is bang on the money with their beloved Zionism and its push to recreate Eretz Israel. Where is the assistance of Israel and the Sauds / Gulf States of wahabi crypto -Jews (who fund ISIS btw ) ... where is it? I don't think so he is a Jewish Rabbi at all ........ He just would hate if the Roman Pope gang gets away with all the stuff they have hidden away throughout there own nice history!  @ oiram @ |
