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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 20:27 #1

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This is the kind of shit that scares me.

It's been on the go for three weeks now apparently. Started in China in Wuhan and has now spread to Thailand, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and now the U.S. There were 9 deaths and 200+ cases yesterday which has doubled to 17 deaths and over 500 cases in 24 hours. The Imperial College London estimates that the number of probable cases at this point being around the 4,000 mark.

www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/

It's Chinese New Year this weekend and in an unprecidented move, the Chinese government has just recently announced that ALL public transport in Wuhan is suspended and have asked residents to not leave and nobody is allowed in.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51215348

That's akin to trying to shut down London a week before christmas!

Very little is known of the virus, which belongs to the same family as SARS.

Scarey shit.
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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 21:59 #2

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Let's see how it works out.


Yeah I know but...


The city’s government has struggled to treat suspected patients because of limited resources.

On Wednesday, Beijing News reported that hospitals in Wuhan have been overcrowded with feverish patients queuing up on winter nights. The transfusion rooms were full of patients, with some sitting in corridors to be treated with intravenous drips.

The outbreak is occurring just as millions of people in China are travelling for the upcoming Lunar New Year holiday, including migrant workers returning home to their families.

The travel rush over the holiday period, which can last up to 40 days, is considered the largest annual human migration in the world.


www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047263/china-coronavirus-travel-ban-issued-residents-wuhan
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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 22:01 #3

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You're fucked, make a will, dig a hole and prepare for doom.
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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 22:08 #4

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Lux Interior wrote:
You're fucked, make a will, dig a hole and prepare for doom.


Aye just me then :D
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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 22:20 #5

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Aye.
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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 22:31 #6

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Keep calm and listen to the Corona remix

I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 23:44 #7

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Look on the bright side. You may get to participate in a real life version of The Walking Dead.


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Coronavirus 22 Jan 2020 23:50 #8

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Voltaire wrote:
Look on the bright side. You may get to participate in a real life version of The Walking Dead.


*adds watch The Walking Dead to list of things to do*
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 11:52 #9

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This post is corona virus. :yes:
I remember the good old days, when 90+ year olds in nursing homes lived forever. Darn this pesky virus.

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1.1365 = 1,283,305,580,313,352
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 12:01 #10

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sketti wrote:
Lux Interior wrote:
You're fucked, make a will, dig a hole and prepare for doom.


Aye just me then :D

I've got the will to dig a hole if you're needing fucked.
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 13:23 #11

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China coronavirus: as travel ban is issued for Wuhan, many in city rush to escape

Most of the infections and all of the deaths have occurred in Hubei province, where Wuhan is located, including 440 cases in the province itself.

Many of those sickened work or live near the city’s Huanan Wholesale Seafood Market, which experts believe is the source of the outbreak, with the virus jumping from animals on sale there.

www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3047263/china-coronavirus-travel-ban-issued-residents-wuhan

From what I've been reading the 'market' that is believed to be the source of the outbreak was like walking into a zoo with many types and species of animals being sold, including endangered species, while the authorities were bribed to look the other way. It may have been the consumption of wolf pups that started the virus, or rats or bats or any number of wild species.

On the menu at Wuhan virus market: Rats and live wolf pups



The food market where China's deadly virus surfaced was a smorgasbord of exotic wildlife ranging from wolf pups to species linked to previous pandemics such as civets, according to vendor information and a Chinese media report.

A price list circulating on China's Internet for a business at the Wuhan market lists a menagerie of animals or animal-based products including live foxes, crocodiles, wolf puppies, giant salamanders, snakes, rats, peacocks, porcupines, camel meat and other game - 112 items in all.

"Freshly slaughtered, frozen and delivered to your door," said the price list for the vendor, "Wild Game Animal Husbandry for the Masses".

Gao Fu, director of the Chinese centre for disease control and prevention, said in Beijing on Wednesday that authorities believe the virus likely came from "wild animals at the seafood market".

China bans the trafficking of a number of wild species or requires special licenses, but regulations are loose for some species if they are commercially farmed.

The paper also quoted other merchants as saying trade in wildlife took place up until the market was shuttered for disinfection shortly after the outbreak.

A number of the early sufferers of the virus, now known as the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV), were employees of the market.

Many exotic species are still widely consumed in China or other Asian countries where they are considered a delicacy.

"Wildlife markets offer a unique opportunity for viruses to spill over from wildlife hosts," he said.

www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/wuhan-pneumonia-virus-wholesale-market-animal-trading-12302476

I hate to say it but what else would they expect to happen? It's like a form of infectious disease karma on the Chinese for their eating practices.

Can't blame the wildlife, it's the people eating it.
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 13:24 #12

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Farmafearmongering, as always.

They are switching continents like a music chair dance. The Zika scare was South America, Ebola Africa and now it is Asia's turn again apparently.
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 13:42 #13

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sketti wrote:
This is the kind of shit that scares me.

It's been on the go for three weeks now apparently. Started in China in Wuhan and has now spread to Thailand, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and now the U.S. There were 9 deaths and 200+ cases yesterday which has doubled to 17 deaths and over 500 cases in 24 hours. The Imperial College London estimates that the number of probable cases at this point being around the 4,000 mark.

www.imperial.ac.uk/mrc-global-infectious-disease-analysis/news--wuhan-coronavirus/

It's Chinese New Year this weekend and in an unprecidented move, the Chinese government has just recently announced that ALL public transport in Wuhan is suspended and have asked residents to not leave and nobody is allowed in.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51215348

That's akin to trying to shut down London a week before christmas!

Very little is known of the virus, which belongs to the same family as SARS.

Scarey shit.

I think your're buying into the fear porn.

As Flare has stated, we have been here before without mass deaths.

At this time, TPTB don´t want to wipe us out en masse, but more dangerous vaccinations which harm us might be the
agenda, hence the news stories saying they must create a vaccine to protect people from Coronavirus.

That vaccine will make millions of dollars for the Jewish Big Pharma.
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Coronavirus 23 Jan 2020 17:35 #14

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I guess this means war with Iran is a non starter then
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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 00:57 #15

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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 12:23 #16

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I read that in that province there exists a pathogen lab. No links cos I've forgotten where I read it.
Hmm.
I bet that province also boasts propoganda labs too.
Dodgy yellow fuckers.
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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 12:34 #17

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In my opinion this is another case of be frightened everyone.

Boris Johnson, the snake in the grass called a COBRA meeting today about Coronavirus.

COBRA meetings are supposed to be about matters of severe national importance. Has anyone died in the UK?

To date only 17 people in China have died afaik out of a population of over one billion people.

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson calls COBRA meeting amid search for 2,000 China arrivals


www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-outbreak-sparks-desperate-hunt-21349398
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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 13:35 #18

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Roastie wrote:

I think your're buying into the fear porn.

Unfortunately the fear porn comes straight from myself due to having extensively researched such things twice myself to date. The first time being just over twenty years ago (the old fashioned way without the Web lol :D ) when I started looking into all things vaccinations and evidently encountered information about disease and virus' which isn't easy dismissed and subsequently led to me to make decisions I wouldn't have previously.
And the second time was back in 2014 with the then latest outbreak of Ebola unfolded. On both occasions it's fair to say that I was almost obsessive over these subjects.
What I found with my Ebola research was that all roads led back to Rome and Rome being the U.S military, inparticular the USBWL - United States Army Biological Warfare Laboratories, formerly known as The Chemical Corps, and apparently discontinued in 1969. I believe after that research 100% that Ebola was created in a Lab. Sadly I lost it all when the last few years of Sanctum Zone were also lost as I had kept the info in Admin.

So to cut a long one short...I've been too far down this rabbit hole for it not to concern and have me on alert when something like this appears.
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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 13:37 #19

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Lux Interior wrote:
I read that in that province there exists a pathogen lab. No links cos I've forgotten where I read it.


www.nature.com/news/inside-the-chinese-lab-poised-to-study-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487

Inside the Chinese lab poised to study world's most dangerous pathogens

Maximum-security biolab is part of plan to build network of BSL-4 facilities across China.

A laboratory in Wuhan is on the cusp of being cleared to work with the world’s most dangerous pathogens. The move is part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025, and has generated much excitement, as well as some concerns.

Some scientists outside China worry about pathogens escaping, and the addition of a biological dimension to geopolitical tensions between China and other nations. But Chinese microbiologists are celebrating their entrance to the elite cadre empowered to wrestle with the world’s greatest biological threats.

“It will offer more opportunities for Chinese researchers, and our contribution on the BSL‑4-level pathogens will benefit the world,” says George Gao, director of the Chinese Academy of Sciences Key Laboratory of Pathogenic Microbiology and Immunology in Beijing. There are already two BSL-4 labs in Taiwan, but the National Bio-safety Laboratory, Wuhan, would be the first on the Chinese mainland.

The lab was certified as meeting the standards and criteria of BSL-4 by the China National Accreditation Service for Conformity Assessment (CNAS) in January. The CNAS examined the lab’s infrastructure, equipment and management, says a CNAS representative, paving the way for the Ministry of Health to give its approval. A representative from the ministry says it will move slowly and cautiously; if the assessment goes smoothly, it could approve the laboratory by the end of June.

BSL-4 is the highest level of biocontainment: its criteria include filtering air and treating water and waste before they leave the laboratory, and stipulating that researchers change clothes and shower before and after using lab facilities. Such labs are often controversial. The first BSL-4 lab in Japan was built in 1981, but operated with lower-risk pathogens until 2015, when safety concerns were finally overcome.

The expansion of BSL-4-lab networks in the United States and Europe over the past 15 years — with more than a dozen now in operation or under construction in each region — also met with resistance, including questions about the need for so many facilities.


The Wuhan lab cost 300 million yuan (US$44 million), and to allay safety concerns it was built far above the flood plain and with the capacity to withstand a magnitude-7 earthquake, although the area has no history of strong earthquakes. It will focus on the control of emerging diseases, store purified viruses and act as a World Health Organization ‘reference laboratory’ linked to similar labs around the world. “It will be a key node in the global biosafety-lab network,” says lab director Yuan Zhiming.

The Chinese Academy of Sciences approved the construction of a BSL-4 laboratory in 2003, and the epidemic of SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) around the same time lent the project momentum. The lab was designed and constructed with French assistance as part of a 2004 cooperative agreement on the prevention and control of emerging infectious diseases. But the complexity of the project, China’s lack of experience, difficulty in maintaining funding and long government approval procedures meant that construction wasn’t finished until the end of 2014.

The lab’s first project will be to study the BSL-3 pathogen that causes Crimean–Congo haemorrhagic fever: a deadly tick-borne virus that affects livestock across the world, including in northwest China, and that can jump to people.

Future plans include studying the pathogen that causes SARS, which also doesn’t require a BSL-4 lab, before moving on to Ebola and the West African Lassa virus, which do. Some one million Chinese people work in Africa; the country needs to be ready for any eventuality, says Yuan. “Viruses don’t know borders.”

Gao travelled to Sierra Leone during the recent Ebola outbreak, allowing his team to report the speed with which the virus mutated into new strains1. The Wuhan lab will give his group a chance to study how such viruses cause disease, and to develop treatments based on antibodies and small molecules, he says.


The opportunities for international collaboration, meanwhile, will aid the genetic analysis and epidemiology of emergent diseases. “The world is facing more new emerging viruses, and we need more contribution from China,” says Gao. In particular, the emergence of zoonotic viruses — those that jump to humans from animals, such as SARS or Ebola — is a concern, says Bruno Lina, director of the VirPath virology lab in Lyon, France.

Many staff from the Wuhan lab have been training at a BSL-4 lab in Lyon, which some scientists find reassuring. And the facility has already carried out a test-run using a low-risk virus.

But worries surround the Chinese lab, too. The SARS virus has escaped from high-level containment facilities in Beijing multiple times, notes Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist at Rutgers University in Piscataway, New Jersey. Tim Trevan, founder of CHROME Biosafety and Biosecurity Consulting in Damascus, Maryland, says that an open culture is important to keeping BSL-4 labs safe, and he questions how easy this will be in China, where society emphasizes hierarchy. “Diversity of viewpoint, flat structures where everyone feels free to speak up and openness of information are important,” he says.

Yuan says that he has worked to address this issue with staff. “We tell them the most important thing is that they report what they have or haven’t done,” he says. And the lab’s inter­national collaborations will increase openness. “Transparency is the basis of the lab,” he adds.

The plan to expand into a network heightens such concerns. One BSL-4 lab in Harbin is already awaiting accreditation; the next two are expected to be in Beijing and Kunming, the latter focused on using monkey models to study disease.

Lina says that China’s size justifies this scale, and that the opportunity to combine BSL-4 research with an abundance of research monkeys — Chinese researchers face less red tape than those in the West when it comes to research on primates — could be powerful. “If you want to test vaccines or antivirals, you need a non-human primate model,” says Lina.

But Ebright is not convinced of the need for more than one BSL-4 lab in mainland China. He suspects that the expansion there is a reaction to the networks in the United States and Europe, which he says are also unwarranted. He adds that governments will assume that such excess capacity is for the potential development of bioweapons.

“These facilities are inherently dual use,” he says. The prospect of ramping up opportunities to inject monkeys with pathogens also worries, rather than excites, him: “They can run, they can scratch, they can bite.”

Trevan says China’s investment in a BSL-4 lab may, above all, be a way to prove to the world that the nation is competitive. “It is a big status symbol in biology,” he says, “whether it’s a need or not.”


I haven't looked into this yet but it throws a rather big spanner at this strain originating from animals.
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Coronavirus 24 Jan 2020 13:44 #20

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Roastie wrote:
In my opinion this is another case of be frightened everyone.

Boris Johnson, the snake in the grass called a COBRA meeting today about Coronavirus.

COBRA meetings are supposed to be about matters of severe national importance. Has anyone died in the UK?

To date only 17 people in China have died afaik out of a population of over one billion people.

Coronavirus: Boris Johnson calls COBRA meeting amid search for 2,000 China arrivals


www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-outbreak-sparks-desperate-hunt-21349398


To me, the fact that a Cobra meetings been called only leads me to think it's a whole lot worse than it is based on the fact that there's no confirmed cases in the UK.

You can also guarantee that the numbers coming out of China will be tripled if not more, when they can't keep that information down anymore. So at the very least there will be a spike of cases over the next few days and certainly within the week.
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